Setting Your Dial to Joy with Donna Sparaco Meador E16 – Transcript

Janet Fish
Hi, and welcome to the breakaway entrepreneur podcast, where we explore the entrepreneurial mindset and the characteristics and traits that lead to success. I’m your host, Janet Fish. And in this episode we talk about setting your dial to joy with Donna’s Barocco. Madore. Donna has a desire to impact and encourage people to be both proactive and deliberate to self improve. She calls it inspire action. I hope you enjoy our chat. So, Donna, welcome to the podcast. It’s so great to have you with us this afternoon.
Donna Sparaco Meador
Thank you, Jan. It’s great to be here, so
Janet Fish
I’m just curious. I don’t know you all that well. So tell me a little bit about you, your personal life, your business life. So I and our listeners could get to know you a little better.
Donna Sparaco Meador
Well, I am Donna’s Barocco matter. Um, I am a author of Speaker, illegal plan advocate and the personality be talked behind A of log known as daily does a dollar. And where that came about, which was will give some great insight to people is, uh, 3.5 years ago or so my husband passed away, and I just sort of set on this road of understanding and looking for always, always looking for the silver lining. And so, you know, as I journey through this experience and people were watching me because I was actually alive, um, on Facebook, it was like a reality show, Janet. It was It was Somebody came to me one time I said, it’s like a ministry because I just kept setting my dial to joy. Just kept looking for joy where it was and not where it wasn’t. And so that became just an add on to my already, uh, philosophical background of being a Girl scout, you know, wanted to help people, you know? So So everything is sort of tying together as to who I am, right in the beginning, basically just beginning.
Janet Fish
So if you started after the death of your husband, you started a Facebook daily and you called a daily dose of Donna
Donna Sparaco Meador
daily does Adana and it actually was an interesting turn of events. I was introduced to Facebook live probably two months before he got sick. And so when we got news that he was sick, I just kept going and it was didn’t didn’t want me to stop. And so I just kept sending a message. We were basically became a fundraiser raising money. He chose to go to Mexico for amino therapy that required, uh, cash. And so I just in the midst of all of what was going on around me working my legal legal plan, that because he business with legal shield and, uh, working on just making sure he got his what he desired. And so it created this, um, very organic following, and I didn’t know it. Janet, I didn’t understand. That’s what was happening. I was just, you know, trying to put one foot in front of the other, make things come toe fruition, make things happen. And so it was very interesting time. As I look back at it, like most things right, we look back, it’s stuff and go. Wow, that was interesting.
Janet Fish
When I love that, because it’s really we do what we need to do. And I think in this time of shelter in place and the Corona virus and all of that, we as entrepreneurs, are just doing what we need to do during a crisis, and we don’t know any other way except for to continue to do that. And then, daughter, you find that pushing through that has led you to where you are today. Great things come out of pushing through in a crisis.
Donna Sparaco Meador
Absolutely. And for me, pushing through actually, Janet means looking for the path of least resistance and the path that feels the best. And so whenever I did anything, it was at the end result. I had to feel better from it. And, of course, after he passed away and I, you know, hit the ground for a couple of months, um, people were looking for me to come back, and I didn’t realize that I had created this this organic, energetic following from people around the world that we’re listening from to my message. And I basically was saying, You know, two people if you have lost a loved one, you know the best way to handle that is to look for them where they are enough where they’re not. And so in business is the same thing. I I’m always looking for where I can end. I can serve the most be the best resource. I don’t look for where who said no and what’s lacking and That’s where I think people, and it requires work. I’m not going to say it requires a pivot. You have to sort of be tuned into understanding where you’re going, what you’re doing and what, why, what your purpose is. And so I just live my entire life that way. Generally, I, um, I hope that answers your question
Janet Fish
well, and it doesn’t so talk a little bit about your journey to becoming an entrepreneur and kind of how you got there.
Donna Sparaco Meador
Well, it’s interesting. I you know, I grew up in a time when it was not meant to pretty go to college, and my parents were entrepreneurs when they were business owners. It was nothing fancy that went out, made a living by having a business right. My mom opened up a health food store. In the seventies, my dad created a manufacturer’s rep company. I have aunts and uncles who that my grandfather from Italy in the early 19 hundreds came here and opened up a food market. So going into business was a natural, um, opportunity. Then I grew up in New Jersey and 20 minutes outside of Manhattan, so getting a job was a natural turn of a message in there was never either or it was. It could just be and right. And so when I think the biggest, um, condone Drum came when 2008 came along and I was caught in the tailspin of that or actually in the headwind, I was one of the first to be like, Oh, my for my company, Um, and just backtrack for a moment, and a lot of people go through this. I had chronic fatigue in the nineties, and when I came out of that and found myself with the job, I thought, Oh, good, I finally you know, I finally made it a I have a job and I’m working. And on a lot of people go through these bumps and all of a sudden 2000 comes along. The money’s gone again. And so, um, my husband at the time, my new husband at the time, and I said, We’ve got to get out of New York and we’ve got to, uh, get to a place where we can actually afford to live. And so we came West because his son lived out here, and the reason I became an entrepreneur at that point and I have been for the last 11 years is because the one thing I knew was I didn’t anymore. Want anybody to decide? Oh, how and when I should get paid. And if I had, you know, and I didn’t want the economy to be a reason for me to lose a job again. So it was not an option to get a job at that moment in time. I said, I don’t care what I do. I’m gonna find something. It offers me residual income because when they stopped paying you you you know you don’t get paid when you get lose your job, right? And so I didn’t want to experience that ever again. So that was it. That was a turning point in my life that said, Yeah, job is not security to me. Like everybody says, get a job, get security. That’s that was no longer a truth for May, And the option I had was find something to do that I loved. Now I could create a residual income. So if something happened in my life, I would still continue to get paid. Okay? And it turned out to be a legal shield. It and I’ve been doing that for the last nine years. But I’ve been in business or for the last 11.
Janet Fish
So talk a little bit about that process of okay. I made a decision that I no longer want to be ruled by somebody else’s employment. Right? And I get that most entrepreneurs get to the point where I want the freedom of my own destiny. Um, however, I’m with you and we talk about it all the time on this podcast. Being an entrepreneur is not an easy thing. It’s never It’s hard work. So talk a little bit about that process for you going from. I don’t have a job and I don’t want a job. So I’m gonna go create my own business and and not so much of the how you chose legal shield or whatnot, but just the process in your mind set of what you needed to do to transition from someone pays me a paycheck. Whether I really work or not to everything that I do is dependent. Every every dollar I make is dependent on what I do,
Donna Sparaco Meador
right? You know, it’s interesting
Janet Fish
in that transition.
Donna Sparaco Meador
Yeah, the transition and I talked to a lot of entrepreneurs over. Obviously, the last nine years they’ve been in Arizona now, specifically, and one of the common thread concerns and wishes that people have is I wish I had known when I started a business that there was ABC involved. Right? And the connecting of the dots is paramount. So the transition, the mental part, the mental decision was easy part Janet Dement apart was like, Oh, yeah, I’m gonna totally be a business owner. I am so done with somebody telling me what I worth what I could have when it comes when it goes. So we get that, uh, we get that moment of time, we just go. Okay, Um, I am done with that. And so
Janet Fish
you make the decision. Now what? That’s exactly that. And now what if I made the decision? What’s the process? Kind of you went to to get to, um, building the business.
Donna Sparaco Meador
I find something you love, right? What is it? And you know what? I went through everything that I was like, Do I want to be a dog? Walker? Do I clean houses, like do I want o build? So I mean, I went through a lot of searching and soul searching, right? But once the decision is made, many comes to okay, how how do we do it? And this is another interesting thing that I discover. Now again, I come from this background of business owners, so running a business was sort of kind of second nature, But this was retail shops I grew up with Right now, I could not Arizona and I met. I was invited in to speak to a about roomful of about 40 naturopathic physicians who were getting ready to graduate. Some of them have already graduated, and they were in this weekend training of how to actually run their business. And I was a little. I was confused by the fact that there was a weekend that they just spent a couple of $100,000 on becoming right. A doctor, a naturopath chiropractor, whatever a lawyer, right? You put a lot of hundreds of thousands of dollars into that, and then you turn around. Okay. Now, how do I run my business? We are all in the same boat when you are part of a network marketing company on insurance business or retail shock or you decide to go to college and get trained to be a lawyer. You’re in the same that you come out of that going, OK, either I’m gonna get a job, or I’m gonna open my own business. And I was I was really, um that took me by surprise. I wasn’t conscious. It of that was a next decision for most of us, Janet, most of us, right? So I was thinking, Well, I’m just doing this little, this little insurance based business with no employees and no overhead. I could work from home and joined the near my phone. I’m good and that I’m talking to. People have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars for training, and they still don’t They don’t have around business. So we all get in the same boat to go. All right, now what?
Janet Fish
Yeah. I mean, you’re spot on. They don’t teach me how to be a doctor or chiropractor, and I mean, I’ve been coaching for 15 years. I see it all the time. They teach me how to do that. My craft. But Donna, they don’t teach me how to build the business. And most people know I won’t say that. I’ll say a lot of people that are in that situation, um, are great at their craft, but they’re not great at building a business. So did you have mentors or somebody that kind of helped you through the process? Did you lumber through it figuring out yourself? How did you get from from A to B? So you said, like you said, Everybody’s in that same buddy, buddy.
Donna Sparaco Meador
Yes, and here’s what. Now here’s a favorite court of mine. Janet is from Winston Churchill. Success is not final. Failure is not fatal. It is the courage to continue that counts. And this resonates so much with me because you are right, every one of us who ever decide to do the thing and now we get a choice of opening up a business were not taught how to write. In fact, nobody says prior to you spending a couple of $100,000 on to become whatever. Here’s what’s gonna happen. If you want to open a business right, here’s what you need to put in place. You have to be aware of this. So what I have discovered is most people most people have this full sense of understanding. They’re not practicing, and I like to say safe success, right? Because they’re just they’re trying. They’re in survival mode, almost running with the bulls. They want to get this sort of education, if you will, out of the way. And so once you d someone to make the decision, you become an entrepreneur, whatever that means to you. Uh and then you say, Okay, now what? Now what? Next? Right. And it is up to every individual to decide again. Here’s a decision. Am I going to go further? And where am I gonna find my mentors? My coaches, Where the tools that I require to move this business forward in a way that I want o flourish, right. And so,
Janet Fish
don, of the interesting thing is, in my experience, identifying what you just said for a lot of people, they don’t even get to that point like they muddle through. But they never actually. And I love I love your thought process because it says it’s all about make a decision, right? Right. So I made a decision to go to chiropractic school, dental school, whatever. I made a decision, Teoh, that I’m not gonna go back and get a job job, right? So now I have to make a decision of what I do next. And for most people, they don’t make that decision correct. They just they just muddle through trying to figure it out. And so I love that thought process. And I love that. That’s like the direction you went. Identify that I need to do this. Yeah, as it as it as it as a, um as a legitimate process, a specific process, not a lumbering through.
Donna Sparaco Meador
Correct. And what’s so if you look, you look at the people, look at anybody. Doesn’t matter her. And this is interesting. Janet, you know I’m in legal shield. It’s a It actually is a network marketing company and were regulated by insurance so were regulated by the insurance industry. So you look at the numbers and every person I’ve talked to and Arizona’s like the number second, the second state in the country. That is like, you know, top network marketers, of course, by the way, I came from the East Coast, so I had no idea what a network marketing company waas. But what I discovered is that the numbers apply. So in my world, everybody’s told my mentors of Shared with me business coaches all the numbers game, right? You you talked to 100% of the people. 80 people are going to do anything 20 people are. And I found this to be true. Also with franchise owners. I found this to be true with natural traffic physicians I because when I was in that room speaking to these natural prison physician and natural Catholics physicians, I was brought there. I was invited there because the woman who was giving the course on how to run your business said You, everybody here must have legal access. You must. You cannot open a business having legal access. And the best way to do that is legal shield. And it just so happened that my physician was in the room and she raised her hand. Is it can I have my rep coming and talked everybody? So that’s why I ended up there. So now I have this room full of 40 people, and I’ve kept in touch with them because, you know, they weren’t ready. They were a couple of whenever, a couple of years out and through time, they’ve reached out to me. And you know how many actually did not follow through with opening up their business? They did not. So here they went through all this schooling and are still trying to figure out if that’s even what they want to do. So, yeah, is that Don’t you find I am fascinated by that. So the numbers applying the numbers applied in any area of business, any business model. And I would imagine that that even applies to employees who get jobs and don’t stick it out a year. They turn around and they leave because it’s not the right fit. They didn’t do the right. It’s okay. His experiences is one of the reasons why did temp work for so much when I was in New York. But
Janet Fish
Madonna, what, in your opinion, you came from too, Entrepreneur. So you haven’t entrepreneurial background, which not a lot. I didn’t. I came from all w two people so drawn that a little bit. But what do you think makes the difference between those that stick it out and actually thrive in a business and those that don’t Well, what What? So decision made. I made a decision. I’m a chiropractor. I’m sitting in that room of natural paths, six or whatever you call them. And you said you would be surprised, which, of course I wouldn’t. Because I coached people, and I get it. But most people would be surprised at how much money they spent and they didn’t go follow through with building the business. So what do you think with your experience, um, is the difference? I mean, they’ve made a decision. They want to build the business, they’ve gone through the school, and now they don’t. What is it? Is it the fire in the belly? Like what is it? Is it the support? What is the difference between those who make it and those who don’t
Donna Sparaco Meador
as a business coat? You’re gonna understand this when I say because I know you’ve come across many people who have said I need help. Janet, I don’t know how to get me to be or from c. Diddy or whatever. And I This is a I am a woman of great tenacity. I do not have a give up attitude. I, um, believe in whatever it is I do, um, and I understand that life is a journey. So the difference And this is huge, as I see it today. Okay, I’m a 61 year old mature woman who have seen a lot of life. And as I see it today, now I understand Desire is not enough. Sometimes it requires a little bit more. Now, for example, you’re a business coach. You’re coming from a totally different space, right? We have life coaches, different space. We have all kinds of available we have. We have no excuse if we have a desire to take action and we’re willing to move our body from point A to point B to move forward and Lily touched the keyboard and go, OK, Google. What? What options do I have out there? There’s one other component that I have found to be, uh, magnificent in my business and in my personal relationships, and that is dealing with the subconscious. And what happened for me was, as I came to Arizona, I started my business. Um, I am a big self help person. I’m a big self growth for personal development. A lot of reading. I don’t watch television. I’m very I’m very tuned in and I kept saying, Why can’t I get my business off the ground? Why is it I can’t make more than $500 a month now? I can give myself the excuses. Janet. I was new to Arizona. I didn’t know anybody. I could go there. But I kept trying to look for the for the blocks to move. I kept saying, Well, I got some cement Block him from me. How removal. And the first thing I came upon was, ah, was a technology and actually located in Scottsdale called Brain State Technology, that literally it’s far beyond um ah, biofeedback. It’s away advanced form of biofeedback where they literally measure your brain. And so I was literally in fight or flight. So I took the time and invested money and myself to do the program to get my brain balance because it wasn’t balanced. I’m getting really transparent with you, Janet. Fun being. It wasn’t balanced. I was in panic mode. I had come out of 2008 a newlywed, the running with the Bulls. I didn’t know what I was doing. Next. You’re living off credit cards. What are we going to do? Okay, Because even though I made the decision, right. You heard me. I made the decision to become a business owner because I no longer wanted to look for a job. What does that look like? And I was willing to doggy paddle for a while, and my husband supported me on this to get myself moving in a direction that I could really sink my teeth into. But But this, um, ability over there in Scottsdale on they have licenses everywhere, but anyway, that bounced my brain. So I no longer had panic issues I know ever had feeling like I was sinking. And I was able to move forward more again. Remember I told you, I’m always looking for the path of least resistance. I want to get those blocks out of the way. And I had been walk around with this elephant sitting on my chest and didn’t understand why. So now I’m moving along. My business is doubling and I’m moving along and I hit another black. I’m sort of hitting this this chap and so Okay, what’s next? Well, then what happens? My husband picked gets sick, and I go and, um, I grateful that I started my business. And so I had money coming in while I’m dealing with that, Yes. And so But I’m also becoming a fundraiser. I’m taking my tension, a wave, my focus away from my business. I’m focusing on my husband moving forward. And when that all happened, when that was over, you know, I’m just I was like, I who’s gonna pick me up off the floor, You know who’s good night? So I’m going. Well, I got to get up off the floor. But I had amazing support and I learned two valuable things. Probably more. But I’m sick of time. One of the valuable things I learned. That entire thing that still is with me today 3.5 years later is always Janet. Allow people love you the way they know how. Not the way you expect that again. I’m looking for path of least resistance. I want to feel good at the doing of whatever it is like choose and so allowed. People love me. Don’t worry about how they Burbage it, how they were that what that means to them. Maybe it doesn’t mean the same thing to me, but they mean well and so I did. I was dealing and processing that and Justin flowing through. And then I met a woman who was a master NLP practitioner. She dealt with the subconscious and she came to me because we were networking. I didn’t really know what she did, but she came to my home because obviously I was grieving very heavily and we started talking. And, of course, I spent a lot of time crying, but that I started to understand what she did. And I said, I want to break through session I because again, can it? I thought that was I didn’t realize anything. You with my personal life. I thought I had to do with my business life, and you and I now know, Or I think you and I now know that all of that’s connected right, the personal business. It’s so intertwined, right?
Janet Fish
I don’t differentiate my business from my life, which means I don’t spend my life working per se. But you’re right there completely. I think that’s something that entrepreneurs get. Perhaps people have jobs, don’t get like five oclock comes. I might leave my computer, but I never turned the brain off. When I go out to a networking event, or I want to say that when I goto or somebody else’s party,
Donna Sparaco Meador
Well, I
Janet Fish
mean, I don’t turn it off. It’s not like I’m
Donna Sparaco Meador
gonna try
Janet Fish
to sell you coaching while I’m having a cocktail with you. But you don’t turn it off like, especially for May. I mean, I’m a coach. You can’t take the coach out of the girl. So I there are so many times where I have to stop myself from, You know, I’m in a social situation on my own. No, I just put my coaching hat on. I’m gonna take that off.
Donna Sparaco Meador
Yeah, right. And
Janet Fish
so So, No, I totally get it. It’s It’s It’s we don’t differentiate the two. And yet we don’t let one suck the life out of the
Donna Sparaco Meador
other, either. No, you can’t end. And so it’s really interesting. And so I went. I had a full breakthrough session. It was about 15 hours, Um, and a couple of months later, remember now I picking myself up and I’m getting back on my daily dose. Adana. I’m doing these podcasts or Facebook lives. I’m moving from working my business, and people are looking at me like I have three. How are you doing this? How? How are you doing this again?
Janet Fish
How are you doing it?
Donna Sparaco Meador
I was doing it because I because the tangle mint that many of us deal with of subconscious confusion was no longer there. I had focus and direction on. I realized what how inspirational I was for other people because of what had been taking place with this. And it was very few therapeutic as well to do these daily, never five minutes or less. Janet, they weren’t long video. You get any on public, anybody can find myself. I’m actually the process of figuring out the easiest way to get that up on YouTube. Um, and eso I’m deal. So I’m out there and I’m just living life, because why I keep setting my dial to joy. I’m looking for the better of doing anything. Why do I want to feel any worse? And I already feel so if I make a decision to do something or I go to meet somebody or we’re having a meeting or a hire somebody or I buy something, it has to be because I’m going to feel better at the doing of it? Does that make sense?
Janet Fish
Yeah, and I’ll out the I’ll just say that. So what? In my experience, which is fast of Coast over 1000 people, the people who go through adversity are the ones, and they pushed through adversity. And I love you’re always looking for joy. You’re always looking at How do I come out on the better side of this? The people who have that mindset are the people who succeed. Right? And I have said this many times I don’t know any successful entrepreneur who hasn’t gone through a very difficult time. I don’t know anybody who says to me, Hey, yeah, I just started a business and boom are is making money and that was making more money. And that is making just it doesn’t happen like that. And I can’t help but reflect on where we are right now. So what? This is what April 21st and we are what, two months into six weeks into shelter and place the Corona virus. I talked to Entrepreneurs Day in and day out, and it is so clear to me, the ones that have the mindset that say I’m going to figure out how to come out on the other end of this better than I went into it versus the ones who say I’m just trying to survive, right versus the ones who say I’m laying down till this is over and I’ll get back up again When? When? It’s
Donna Sparaco Meador
amazing. You know, it’s Ah yeah, again in mind setting decision And, um well, I have found I’ve got great mentors that in my company and legal shield and one of the things I heard just a couple days ago, they said, Look, we are not so she we’re not, um, social distancing. In fact, socializing is going on more than ever. In fact, more so than ever. Waas. But we’re physical, physically distancing. I’m out walking every morning. I’m waving to strangers. I live on a little town house on the lake out here. We’re waving to people in both. You know, I’m having drinks with neighbors sitting across the patio instead of right next. I mean, we’re just socializing is different. I’m on more zoom calls now. I’m doing more interviews now than I ever did on and as an extra. But of course I want a hug. But I don’t. And you know, here’s the good news is what I’m a newlywed. I’m a newlywed. I’m running my second book. You know, my first book was about relationships and dating, and my second book is about grieving intimacy. And I’m moving forward with that while I’m working my business because I want to practice a success in the air, all areas of life,
Janet Fish
right? Right. And
Donna Sparaco Meador
and the other
Janet Fish
thing is, I get that I’m more Zainab Zooming Mawr. I have reached out, and I’ve communicated with people that I hadn’t talked to in a very long time. Same thing my neighbors were sitting there, talking through the fence and having cocktails in our driveways. And yeah, And so while while I do absolutely miss the the physical contact of being close to people, it’s amazing how we’ve been able to pivot are what we do and try to find ways that we can continue to move not only our social lives forward, but our businesses for
Donna Sparaco Meador
right, And what’s really interesting is I had a conversation with one of the attorneys the other day and she says, You know, we’re getting people or fine, you know, people are sending in their wills now Legal still has an app. I have sold plans to people specifically to get their league will in place. And one gentleman in particular. I mean, literally four months later he was gone because he was in a motorcycle accident without ever happy to his will. But for some reason, this is a wake up call. Right now, people are getting life is runs in place. People are getting their wills done. I provide that at a nominal fee. So people are starting to and people who already have to plan on going. I’m finally doing my well right? If you could do it right on your phone. So it’s been It’s great to be a resource to people. I’m also, you know, out there. I call yesterday with somebody who whose husband is sick, and I said, I’m there for you because I have empathy. I been there. I know what this journey looks like. OK, so so anything I can do to help people and Biest and to serve them, I will. And of course, legal shield just speaks to the Girl Scout in me, which is the girl who always wanted to help the old lady across the street. Right then, I discovered I only want to help the old lady across Street, if that’s exactly where she wanted to go. Because not all people want across the street. And that’s where you and I come in and off. Look what separates what makes it different. Being successful and not successful, well, decision and willing to invest in yourself and go and find the mentors, the coach, er, the coaches, the medium that’s going assist you to move forward. And many people don’t do that.
Janet Fish
Yeah, and I want to go back to one of the other things that you said, which was while this time utilizes time to do things that that you wouldn’t otherwise be able to do so. I mean, I have friends who, um, I don’t know anybody actually, let me put it this way. I have friends who are bored. I don’t get that. I’m busier than ever, but they’re cleaning their closets and doing all that kind of stuff. It’s funny. I run now. I didn’t run before, but I do now and I go around the neighborhood. I see a house. It’s got a pile of stuff sitting outside of like, Well, that woman’s cleaning their closets, But you’re you’re getting too writing your book. I mean, I’m doing a bunch of, um, content creation and doing some other things as well. So to be able to utilize the time, um, versus watching TV or sit on the couch or whatever people are doing that aren’t utilizing the time in a way that’s going to benefit them on the other side of it, right? Yeah, e I will say this. I’ve said it from the very beginning. I think this is a great opportunity on. I’m looking at it as that I can’t say yesterday I was like, this sucks. Yesterday was that it was a cloudy day and I’ve been working my butt off, and I was like this. I’m just tired of this. I’m ready for it to be over. And of course, we’re all ready for it to be over. But it’s not gonna be over tomorrow. And so you just got a buck up and figure out a way. The turn, the you know, the lemon and a lemonade.
Donna Sparaco Meador
And I always have been that way, Janet. And so it has served me well. And if I can, I made up a word. Equality. I like to be an inspire actioner I want It’s not enough to inspire or what time it is my intention to, uh, plan to see it in somebody’s brain so they actually move to actually take action in some form, whatever that looks like for them at the moment. And, uh, certainly you and I together we have a lot of resource is we know a lot of people. There’s, and that comes down to there’s there’s always somebody out there that can help somebody move forward Janet and goes back to. Are they willing to do with the thing to get that the happen? Are they willing to invest in themselves to do it? Are they willing to pay for it? Are they will? Are they willing to make that decision? And it is a very interesting experience, and not everybody is my client. Not everybody is yours because those people are right
Janet Fish
well done and I’m right there with you. I mean, it’s it’s it’s It’s one thing to decide, and I totally agree with that. But it’s a whole big and I’d say White. That’s that’s 15% of the equation. It’s a whole another thing to move forward. So I I decide I want to protect my family. But I got a contact Donna and I got to say, OK, I need a will and I need identity theft and I need I mean, I don’t know the ins and outs of all of what legal shield does, but I need to protect my business. So it’s one thing to say. I want to do X. I want to grow my business. But I’m not willing to invest in hiring somebody to help me along that way and and so deciding is absolutely important. Without that, you don’t get anywhere but decided to do something about it and invest in it is is a much bigger decision, and it’s much to me. It’s more key than even the decision making process, because that’s the differentiator between people who actually move to that next level and the people who don’t right and
Donna Sparaco Meador
I’ve been able to and the everything I did the brain state and uh, working with Lauren on NLP and everything I’ve done in my life has cleared the path to make the walk simpler and easier and smoother. And so it’s not enough for somebody. I don’t do well with somebody saying that will just do it like just do what’s wrong with you Like I don’t do well with that. I’m going. I need to be loved forward and I want to love people forward. And taking action sometimes is a lot of underlying Ah, history, Janet. People have possibly been abuses. There’s 50% of the American poppy a video filmed. I’m gonna give a stat here, but 50% of the people have been abused in some form, right? Literally. I mean, I I sit in a room and I talked to people, and I literally and we’re very open and obviously won’t say who wearing like that. But 50% of people in a small room in your living room when you have a conversation could have been sexually abused. And so there are all kinds of stories going on in people’s subconscious that prevents them from moving forward. And sometimes you just want to clear that away. Move it shifted out, get get clarity so that you’re able to move forward, you see, and So that was sort of where I’m at with people,
Janet Fish
and I and I get that. You know, I don’t focus so much on that part. I focus more on the business line, but mindset always comes up if there’s blocks and lots of times there are. But I also think that you have to first to have to identify that you’ve got blocks or you’ve got a block right, and then, secondarily, I think you have to reach out. You have to admit it to yourself, and then you have to decide you want to fix it, Okay, because that’s critical. And then you’ve got to reach out and ask. I think you’ve got to say I’m willing to be vulnerable enough to share that. I’ve got blocks, I’ve got issues. I’ve got something that’s keeping me from what I really want, and I find it’s hard for a lot of people. Business owners who aren’t quite where they are but want to pretend like they are to the outside world aren’t quite ready to just ask and say or admit to themselves that they they could use the help and then ask for it.
Donna Sparaco Meador
One of the first coaches I worked with. I’m going to say probably 67 years ago now. And she literally she was an accountability coach. So you would have thought that would have been easy, right? Dani, commit to this. Okay, I go do this and then I wasn’t doing it anyway. She called me up. Ah, halfway through It says, Oh, my gosh, I know exactly what your problem is And I said, Why? And she said, You’ve got to change your money. Believe so Now we went from we had to. I had to stop long enough to redirect, to go get that worked on right through whatever makes sense to people for me, I went to a psychic type in a medical intuitive of an impact. But I had to change my money belief, you know, and that’s where this whole thing started to go. Oh, that makes it. It’s not enough to just know that Yeah, your parents report when you grew up or they told you all the time. Money doesn’t grow on trees or whatever the story is. If it’s still in your subconscious, it’s still there. And so that was where I started to really unleashed some big, powerful stuff within because I was allowing that to be changed and shifted. But you’re right. You have to first admit to yourself that you’ve got a you got a thing going on. You got blocking somewhere.
Janet Fish
Yeah, it’s It’s interesting because I also coach people on wealth acceleration, which means, you know, I’m working. I’m making money now. How do I grow my wealth and we always start that conversation with you have a relationship with money. Now, when I grew up, we didn’t talk about money. That was something that in my family, we didn’t ever talk about at all. And so for me, I My relationship was money was money was bad. I could needed money, but rich people should pretension. I shouldn’t talk about money because money was it just didn’t it just didn’t just didn’t have a good uh, that’s how I was brought up. So I always talk to people about you have a relationship with money like you have a relationship with food, like you have a relationship with people and to understand, to your point exactly, Donna, to understand right up front that I have a relationship with money and I understand what that relationship with money is is the first step before. You can even think about where to invest your money and what to do with your money, because that’s such a huge component. So when people come to me and wealth acceleration, coaches say, Where should I invest my money? We start with, What’s your thought about? You know, what’s your relationship with money? Because because I’m going to invest in something. I have a completely different relationship with money than you do. So let’s explore that before we take another step to your point. Exactly.
Donna Sparaco Meador
Yeah, it’s interesting. So, uh, everything’s related energy is combined and everything is one. At the end of the day, we do our best to separated, but you’re 100% right. When you’re an entrepreneur, you live, breathe and eat it, but I also very deliberate. We don’t talk about business in the bedroom. When I walk away from my desk, I get away from this computer. So if I want to play around the computer, I use my laptop downstairs. So it’s a It’s a whole different mindset. Um, if I’m on my phone, I don’t go on my phone when I’m eating dinner with my husband, you know? So we’re very cognizant of those lines that that’s another requirement that business owners should draw. You know that for your peace of mind and your sanity,
Janet Fish
I I’m right there with you. I try to take every Friday off. Um, and I I never check email during the weekend right now, and it’s funny. People say I sent you an email like away. I didn’t see it when did so Saturday. Well, I have that separation. I have those boundaries as well, right? And I think it’s really important to do that. Um, so what
Donna Sparaco Meador
do you
Janet Fish
want Your legacy to be?
Donna Sparaco Meador
My legacy. It is my intention. And now my new husband’s attention to work with May we team up and we work with, uh, business owner of business coaches, actually teach business owners. We want to grow legal shield to a point where it’s general because it’s generational. So we want to be able to will that to our next generation, our business that we build, um and, um and I will Emma Speaker. And once my second book is published, which I’m expecting it to be published a decent the process that before this year is over, I will be out speaking on exactly what you and I spoke about today. You know, about about setting your daughter joy and looking for, um, him where he is and not where he isn’t whoever he is to anybody right whatsoever. They lost and so touching the and I’m being delivered about that. You know, Janet, a lot of people have. I have heard a lot of people on the internet and YouTube talking about following joy, finding joy, finding happiness again after you lose someone you love. And my whole point, my whole direction has been well, yeah, but why do you wanna wait to you trip over? I want you set your doll to it and go after it. Right. And so I will be out speaking. My legacy will be I will be on stage. Is I will be talking to thousands about the journey I went through with Piotre and my now husband and how you combine the loves of those two in one. It’s a very an amazing experience. Maybe if your I’m not a mother. So I never experienced it with Children loving 1234 However, menu have write for some reason when people think that you lose a significant other that, um it wasn’t that really if you find somebody else and that nothing could be further than the truth And so I’m sort of on that quest to explain what that is. So my legacies air to full will have, ah, legal show business that will be ableto well to our family. And, uh and, um, i’ll be I’ll be 100 years from now when people pick up, you know, Jim runs both. They’re gonna pick up Donna, sparkle matter books to. I
Janet Fish
love that I love it. And I’m super excited Teoh to see where that journey takes you because we’ve spoken quite a bit off line, um, about your journey. And I really excited to see where that takes you. Let us know. How can people contact you? How can they find out about the book? What’s the best way to do that?
Donna Sparaco Meador
Thank you. I I am public. So they google Donna’s Barocco or Donna’s Morocco Metter They’ll find me. I have
Janet Fish
I will put So I’ll put a constant contact information in the show notes so below you’ll be able to get your contact information. Anything else you want to share about? The book is kind of a pre you of it. And I’m putting you on the spot because we haven’t talked about this, so I am kind of
Donna Sparaco Meador
putting out. Citing Janet, I woke up one morning and I received this very clear message that this book had to be written. And it was before I met my now husband and and we’re very excited because Jeffrey used to be a ah youth pastor and he’s he studied the Bible. He and I come from a different place of spirituality, and this book is very exciting cause we’re planning to co author it where he will actually have Scriptures based on where I actually come from a different place, because he’s always telling me everything. I talk about a script flee based on my go. Well, that’s great. That’s wonderful. You know, I never read the Bible, but you know, but it’s coming from a place of heart and truth, and I want it’s my desire to, uh, touch people in a way and inspire them, Of course, to understand that we are meant to be happy creatures, and we are on. I want people to find that and know that they can. And it’s all about mindset comes back down to that Janet
Janet Fish
Awesome and then the other coast. And I’ll ask just as we wrap up, uh, as a legal plan advocate, Is there a link to some place that we can put in the show notes where people can go and learn a little bit more about how you might be able to assist them in that part of their life?
Donna Sparaco Meador
That would be wonderful. Yes, because legal plan advocacy is just a inexpensive way to Reese to reach, you know, traditional attorneys on DSO Yes, my website. The best one to use that this time would be Don. It’s Brock adult ladies of justice dot com. They convinced me they can reach me that way. They can message me, text me. It’s I’m all available.
Janet Fish
So Donna, this been awesome. Thank you so much for spending some time with us. It’s been great to get to know you a little bit better. Thank you. Got the same year? Absolutely. Alright, Great. You have a great rest today. Stay saying and safe in this very challenging and yet exciting time.
Donna Sparaco Meador
Absolutely. Thank you, Janet. You too. All
Janet Fish
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