Erica Ross-Krieger E8 – Transcript

Janet Fish
Hello and welcome to the breakaway entrepreneur podcast, where we explore the entrepreneur mindset, the characteristics and traits that lead to success. I’m your host, Janet Fish. And in this episode, Eric of Ross Kreeger shares her lessons from a jigsaw puzzle. Erica has provided coaching and consulting service is to individual entrepreneurs into their teams. For more than 25 years, she has dedicated her personal and professional life to the importance of entrepreneurial self care and self worth. By teaching from her own experience, Erica blends her experience as a board certified coach, FT specialist, organizational development consultant, writer nutritional ist and authorized tapping into a wealth coach with their studies and training in numerology to provide her readers in clients with wisdom that fosters a sense of well being. Her work and writing have inspired people throughout the world. I hope you enjoyed our chat, Erica. Good afternoon. It’s so great to have you on our podcast this afternoon.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Janet, Thanks so much for having me.
Janet Fish
I’m really looking forward to today, so let’s just start out by having you tell us a little bit about you. Ah, your business life, your personal life. Let our listeners get to know you a little bit better.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Okay, great. Uh, let’s start with I was in corporate America for seven years and left corporate America excitedly way back in 1989 to start my own business because after seven years, I knew darn well that being out on my own was what I needed to do. So I’ll give you that much of, ah, background to my entrepreneurial start, which now has been almost 30 years, a little bit way, way before that when I first got bitten by the bug of entrepreneurship, I would say I was probably 12 maybe 13 on a kid. Brother actually sold ladybugs to help the neighbors get rid of a Fiddes. So I said to myself, You know, if he can do that, what can I D’oh Andi? I was baby sitting at the time, and I learned that if I got the baby sitting gig and or two and I couldn’t do them both in one night, I could basically refer a friend and collect a little bit of the money. And I Did
Janet Fish
you do that at age 13?
Erica Ross-Krieger
I think that was probably the first time. Yeah, I don’t know how big of a cut I took probably 50 cents at the time. Because what baby sitting was Well, maybe I took a corridor cause baby sitting was probably 50 cents an hour back then, but, yeah, I think I figured that out. Um, And I also had, um, 1/6 grade teacher who is one of the most beautiful humans on the planet who had just finished, um, serving overseas in Let’s see Africa. I’m trying to think of where in Africa and came back to the U S and pot us all. Some of the lessons he learned about spending his time there and one of the things he taught us I wanted us all involved in. What’s the idea of entrepreneurship? Now, come on. That was You know, I know I’m dating myself here, but that was 1969. No. And, uh, what he had us each do was to create our own little business with in the classroom. Now I sold erasers and pencils. Don’t Don’t ask me why, but that’s what I did on, um I learned that the best way I could sell my stuff way just sold to each other. in class was if I sold a package of, I don’t know, 10 or 12 and I gave one for free. Now, I don’t know how I knew to do that. So there’s that now that’s telling you all about my entrepreneurial journey That’s not really telling you about what I do for fun, but, um I entrepreneur for fun.
Janet Fish
So tell us, S so you you left your w two job in 1989 and became an entrepreneur. Um, talk a little bit of whether you’re still doing what you embarked on doing back then Or what are you doing now? As far as your business.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Thanks, Jen. It in some version, Yes. And parallel to both my undergraduate degree, which was in social leper and psych from UC Berkeley. On my master’s degree in organizational development and sight. Parallel to That was when I was working corporate America, and I always knew that there was some combination between personal development as well as entrepreneur ing that somewhere along the line I was gonna pull those things together. Now I was blessed to be able to have a corporate job. Um, back then, where I was doing training and development and executive coaching, even at age 28. And so what I’m doing now is actually not that far different from then. Except back then. I did it for teams of people inside corporations. And when I went out on my own to do so, I was able to build the business within a year to such a degree that I was also able to pull my husband out of his W two. Have him join me in the business. Um, because it was so successful. Now, to this day on, I will say along the way have there been side trips that I’ve taken? Sure, I went to nutrition school. I went to art therapy school. But I’ve always integrated my side trips into the bulk of what I do now. To this day, my specialty is bringing in the mindset in the psychology in tow entrepreneurship. So I’m sort of kind of doing what I always did, but with a much more modern twist, because now it involves neuroscience and quantum physics and brain shift
Janet Fish
awesome. So I don’t want to get too far down the technical side, but I’m very interested in I know you work with all types of entrepreneurs. Um, small business owners that set to a kind of talk about who your target market is, and then what you do for them. How do you help them in their journey to success?
Erica Ross-Krieger
Thanks, Janet. Yeah, I have a really specific niche, and it is the entrepreneur. And it could be a coach because a lot of them are who have not yet mastered a 10 cave month, right? Not a consistent 10 came up. They haven’t got that happening. Maybe they’ll have a year where they do a hand, you know where they make six figures. Maybe they have a year where they don’t, but it’s not a consistent 10 came up. And there’s a particular mindset that happens to not only across the six figure mark, but then to take it from there to the next level. And they’re very different line set strategies, if you will. So that’s the group I target. That’s the group I love with, because when the light love working with when the lights come on, they’re so excited.
Janet Fish
Yeah, well, in that, Interestingly enough, that’s the same kind of group that I focus on. Um I mean, I agree with you that 1st $10,000 a month, $100,000 a year is the hardest to make. And once they get there, it’s really the turning of the dials. I approach my clients from the very bread and butter marketing, um, plan. What do you do every day to find new clients, et cetera. I have the impression that you you look at it from a different perspective, so go deeper in the the challenge of the mindset that keeps people from that kind of holy grail of $10,000 a month. And then how you gonna get them over that, um, to making a lot more money?
Erica Ross-Krieger
Sure. So the interesting thing is, I think one of the places where you and I connected initially was doing that kind of nuts and bolts bread and butter. This is what you do. Um, coaching for entrepreneurs. And what I began to see was that even if people took the steps right, they did the stuff like the formed in entity. They did their strategic plan that they did the outer stop, but something still wasn’t right. It it became clear to me that the place I love to play is really in the inner room, which doesn’t mean I don’t do any of the out around, because I do. But it means that in order to have my clients get juicier outcome from what the work they do in the outer world, we need to dive deep into the inner world.
Janet Fish
So tell me a little bit more about what you would join most about the work that you do.
Erica Ross-Krieger
So would now be a good time for me to talk about one of the modalities that I use or you want to hear that a little bit later.
Janet Fish
No, no, I go for
Erica Ross-Krieger
it. Sure. So one of one of several other modalities I uses something called E F. T. Your listeners may have heard of emotional freedom techniques or tapping up, but that’s only one. And I’ll tell you more about that in the second. I’m by and large and experiential coach. So and I always was back in corporate America took people out on ropes courses. I have always been a believer that I can tell you what to do. I can, um, have you try some certain things, but on last year Really? Up against your blocks and your walls. We can’t really do much. So I was all about and always have been an m putting you up. But, you know, I know it sounds scary, but putting someone right up against their edge And do, I think, one of the things that I’m best that is fiercely holding the space for somebody to do that work so that it’s not scary. And I use e f T emotional freedom techniques in order to help people break patterns. No. You want me to go deeper? Yeah. Intact. So emotional freedom techniques have been around now from more than 25 years in in its present form. Short version is that really is a combination of ancient, uh, Chinese medicine in particular, acupressure as well. A psychology on DDE. It helps reduce cortisol levels, which is what is the fighter flight, the component of the fight or flight response on that your body produces when you’re under stress. So by simply tapping with two fingers on eight different points on the torso in the face. Um, you Actually, it has been proven to not only lower cortisol levels, but break patterns, interrupt patterns and rewire a mind set if you will. And I use that word loosely because it is more than just thinking it’s actually an emotional response that can be shifted. So if, for example, I’m looking at my entrepreneurial bottom line and I’m feeling a little stressed out about it, I make worst decisions by being in a state of stress, overwhelmed and panic. Then if I broke that emotional response and came at it from a place of calm sent, heard, grounded, open possibility.
Janet Fish
Yeah. Okay, so how’d oh, I know that I am a good or what do you see as a good candidate? Um, for someone working with you, I mean, you talked a little bit about the monetary money that they make. You also talked a little bit about stress and cortisol levels and whatnot. But how do you like? How could I self identify that I am a good can that to work with you to help me get over the things that are keeping me from getting to where I want to be?
Erica Ross-Krieger
And willingness is number one, huh? Right. I am willing to take a look at what’s blocking me. I’ve tried a lot of other things. Um, I know that it’s more than just, uh, doing. It’s also a level of being, and that’s how that right there and I really want to start, you know, breaking the six figure mark e. Excuse me or, um, having consistent 10 K months or more, uh, with clarity, focus, ease and grace. I think if those things air there than your candidate
Janet Fish
So you talked a little bit about the characteristics that make a good person for you to work with, expand that a little bit Maurin to kind of the joke because you’re obviously working with mindset, and that’s what this podcast is all about. Um, you may work with it or come at it from a slightly different perspective, but I’m fascinated by all aspects. Talk a little bit about what you see as the characteristics that shape, um, the the successful entrepreneur. And then I’d also like to expand on that in, um and talk about how do I teach? How do I learn them? Do I have to have them or not? Can they be learned? Can they be taught go a little deeper and that as well.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Okay, um, I’m gonna go back to my word willingness, but I’m also gonna throw in the word certainty. There is a technique many of us in the coaching world and you two I know called future pacing where wait and successful entrepreneurs know. And in a minute I’m gonna talk about jigsaw puzzles and take you completely off track. But you you’ll see how it ties together. There is a way that if I truly can trust that my success already exists and I can step into it now rather than then and operate right now as if it were then then. In fact, that is probably the key piece of success for an entrepreneur. Make no mistake about it. Have I hit trials and tribulations in my, um, entrepreneurial journey? Sure. And I’m sure you’re gonna ask me about something. But the truth of the matter is, I knew from the second that there was a glitch, that there was an answer on the other side of it that on some other plane will call it quantum. Which is why I talk about one and, well, a lot. And I know it sounds a little out there. But in the world of one of physics, that plane already exists that successful me already exists. So somehow or other, she figured it out. The problem is, I’m trying to solve it from now. Look, Einstein said the same thing, right? I’m trying to solve whatever it is now from my current self. And the mind that got me in a glitch is not the same mind that got me out of it. So how do I tap into that? And I actually have a system in my work or helping people do that. So one of the most successful? Um, well, one of the traits of the most successful entrepreneurs from my perspective, is that they get that they just get that. Okay, wait. Let me back up. I know that there’s a glitch here. Uh, I’ll keep my eye on the ball and I’ll keep my eye on the fact that I am already successful. It’s exactly what I did when I left corporate America. I basically had no plan. Now, I’m not suggesting people leave their w two years with no job on, and I mean no plan, but I didn’t really have one. I had a couple of consulting gigs lined up, but that was it. But I knew that I’d figured out tonight, and I did
Janet Fish
still kind. I’m hearing confidence. I mean, I love that the willingness and certainty, um, talk a little bit more about future pacing because you mentioned that you didn’t really describe what it is and how you use it or how you use it with your clients.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Uh, sure. I actually think I’m gonna do a little giveaway right here.
Janet Fish
All right.
Erica Ross-Krieger
This isn’t this little giveaway on why I say that is it’s a big part of what I d’oh on. I’m just gonna give it to you and everybody else right now. I want to teach you real quickly about what I call your transformation boot. You can say this is crazy, but I’m telling you, it works. So every day, for the most part in the States every day. But, you know, maybe not every most of us shower every day or bathe every day, and we go into some container to do that, whether it’s the back, cover the shower. In my case, it’s a shower stall, so I’m gonna refer to it that way. So I have a sticky on outside of my shower stall to this day will use it forever on it reminds me, and it says Erica’s transformation and the game I play with myself for future pacing, which is to live now as if then is now. I make a deal with myself, which is when I step into that shower, I transform into who I want to be next, as if I’m already that person. And when I’m in the shower, I don’t I have to think like her. I have to wash like her. I have to be here. When I come out. I can pick back up my old crap and I can start worrying about Corona virus or whatever the hell else is going on. But when I’m in that share, all bets are off. I’m already whatever it is. Next seven figure earner, a consistent six. You know, bigger earner, whatever it is, if it’s a financial goal, when I go into that transformation booth on that, so I’m gonna bite you and all your listeners to take me up on the idea for a week, try the transformation. I think
Janet Fish
that’s fascinating I’ve never heard anything like that in all my all my years. So, um, I will certainly take you up on that challenge, and I hope our listeners will is, Well,
Erica Ross-Krieger
yeah, now you know that that’s not the only piece of future pacing. I mean, then I could take it out of the shower and sit down and lay out my plans for the year, embodying though my future self. What did she put in place? And it’s not always only doing stuff, and it’s not always busy work. You know, my future self might have been smart enough or is smart enough to know I need to get outside and play. I needed to take care of my body. I needed to stretch. I needed to exercise. I needed to eat better. I needed to drink more water. I need to laugh during the day. What does she know? That I’m not paying attention to?
Janet Fish
Well, and I think that I believe that the actions are really important. But if you don’t have the mindset, the actions don’t matter right then you’re you’re just going through the motions or you’re going through the motions for a minute and then you stop and you don’t follow through. So I think it’s really important, um, to act as if to future pace. You’re you’re where you want to be. And I I love the idea of the transformation Booth. So, um, I think that’s really cool. So you alluded to a little bit earlier and, you know, I was gonna ask you this question. Talk a little bit about some of those the hiccups you’ve had along the way because I don’t, as I always say, I don’t know a single, successful entrepreneur that didn’t have some hiccups along the way.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Okay. And remind me also to talk about jigsaw puzzles on the role they play in this. So hit several hiccups along the way. One early on in my entrepreneurial journey, I’m going to say it was probably about your five into it. Um, I was diagnosed with auto immune condition. The hiccup of that was it really made me see that I couldn’t do as much doing on stress myself out as I was doing. And I would say it was about that point that I really got strongly that there was another way to go about entrepreneur ing and there was a more joyful leg. There was an easier way. I didn’t have to work so hard, but I really had to trust the process with that. And that’s when my fascination with um the the easier way we’ll call it mindset took hold. So that is a challenge I deal with to this day. But I don’t see it that way anymore. I just see it as, um, my body’s way of reminding me of what I know, which is, Uh, I gotta take time to smell the roses and take care of me. Above all else, that was one another hiccup happened. I think it did. For many of us in the circle you and I travel in was around about your 2008. We were heavily invested in your estate on um, everything went to hell in a handbasket, as they say, we lost our millionaire status and had to really regroup, and that was from investment stuff. It also was a time that took its toll on our business because we were so busy with either offloading properties or short selling properties or foreclosing on properties that are businesses. Both took a little bit of a hit because we’re putting a lot of our attention on taking care of back. And we really had to keep our eye on what was important to us on. I say we because my husband, my still are both entrepreneurs working out of the same offices and house, even though we both do two different things. And that hiccup probably gave each of us the end together as a team, the certainty that we were getting back in the saddle and within three years, we we did and got back what we’ve lost and some So that was quite a hiccup.
Janet Fish
Well, well, I experienced a similar hiccup, a similar time, as many many of us did who were heavily involved in real estate at that time. So other than, um, your lovely husband were there other people in the community or that you surrounded yourself with that help? You either helped you at that time or help you on an ongoing basis because I find that sometimes the entrepreneurs I talked to, where the small business owners I talked to oftentimes feel isolated and the really successful ones have surrounded themselves with a community about their entrepreneurs. So I was just curious about how you guys, that that role that might have played a role with you guys.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Yeah, they’re two things I’d say surround myself with other entrepreneurs, even if it’s on masterminds and creating a community. Be a zoom with people that are in other countries, such around myself. I am by nature of an introvert, so I’m pretty comfortable with spending a lot of time by myself. But that does hit a place where it can be isolating. So I have a balance between when I spend my alone time and when I spend my reach out time for community that way. But it also always had coaches around me that our play a significant role in my life. I have one who’s a une ft master even more expert me of tea than I am, and I learned from him all the time on dhe. I have sessions with him, just had one last week, and um, a psychologist in Texas who wrote an incredible book called Taming Your Gremlin. His name is Rick Carson, and it really is a phenomenal approach. It’s not a quick read. It’s an ongoing life practice of taming that negative voice in your head. Andi, I still have sessions with Rick. Individually, he I consider him to be a great part of my team. And I have, ah, business coach who helps me with actual strategy like this is when you should release that program and you know, the nuts and bolts kind of thing. So there’s that. There’s the coaching part, you know that I surround myself with coaches, the community of other entrepreneurs. We tend to dio go to dinner, go to lunch if they’re nearby. But I love to pull people together on Zoom and meet monthly, just tow, brainstorm and do masterminds together.
Janet Fish
That’s also my I totally agree. I don’t know what I would do without my, um, ever increasing community of entrepreneurs that support me in everything that I do. So what would you say is your best advice for someone thinking about becoming an entrepreneur?
Erica Ross-Krieger
If that’s your heart communicating with you? A. Go for it be surround herself with a good team that includes a coach, not just for the strategy, but maybe another one for the mindset, Um, and know that it is a marathon, not a sprint and that the reason I got into entrepreneur ing in the first place for me is because it is the greatest arena for self development in the entire planet. And if growing and stretching and learning and showing up more fully is what no gets you excited, then step into entrepreneurship because that is really what this arena, for my view, is best at, which is bringing you up against the edge is where you need to grow and stretch on, providing an opportunity to do it. So, no, keep keep the balance, keep playful. Aiken say all kinds of things. But to know that this arena will demand more of you than almost anything else except maybe a marriage and yet, uh, fill you up more than anything else is that that’s it.
Janet Fish
That’s super Well said. I I agree, and I couldn’t I couldn’t agree more that I think that’s really, really well, well said he touched a little bit on the kind of the fun and the balance and the So what do you guys do to not just have fun? Um, but to, you know, decompress from the busy work of entrepreneurial ship
Erica Ross-Krieger
Now we get away a lot, and one of our favorite getaways is Monterey, and we take off for three and four days at a time, frequently throughout the year to get down there. It’s one of our favorite places to walk along the water, go to the aquarium, be outside and enjoy the beauty on DDE. That that’s one thing that we do together individually Werfel outdoor people in very different ways. Steve’s extremely active and loves Whitewater rafting, so he’ll go do that. I like getting outside to. I love to swim, but I prefer a quiet stroll through the park, and he’s a little bit more physically adventures this than I am. Um, but I integrated in my day so that it’s I try not to, um, work, work, work, work, work so hard that all this good night half good like, Oh, my God, I need a break like, what is it to weave that in? So I may work an hour on creating a product, and then, uh, you know, get up and go, You know, stretch or work out on the next size bike on and then, you know, have some fresh water, and then come back and do a little bit more. So I sort of blend some of things I like to do into my day. That said, one of the things I do Steve does not is I am 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle lover. And by that I mean big time. As in for the last 15 years. I do about 2 1000 piece jigsaw puzzles a month so visible on every two weeks. And I do it because it helps me decompressed. But I get more lessons for entrepreneur ing out of doing jigsaw puzzles than almost anywhere else.
Janet Fish
So it could be an example of how of something you’ve learned from putting together a jigsaw
Erica Ross-Krieger
puzzle. Great. So this is a fun thing to me, which is I think about it. All right, if you open a brand new box of a brand new puzzle So we’re talking, you already know all the pieces are in there. Um, you dump him out, you get overwhelmed by how much there are, but you know darn well exactly what you’re gonna be creating. You’ve got your eye on the picture, you know, I mean, let’s just say it’s a picture of, I don’t know, ice cream and kids in a part. You know, your focus doesn’t go far from that. You’re not putting together the puzzle thinking. And maybe I should be putting something together about I don’t know. It’s the focus that reminds me, is an entrepreneur. We gotta keep that bigger picture in mind so that when things get overwhelming and all the pieces are thrown out and I don’t know what any one of those pieces means, I pick it up. I look at it and I know that this is an important piece of the big picture that I’m working on. That, to me, is just such an incredible metaphor for the whole entrepreneurial journey. So it’s one of the things that the lights we know in
Janet Fish
And is that what you meant by Jigsaw puzzles? Because I wanted to make sure that I brought
Erica Ross-Krieger
back a That’s that. That is what I meant. And yeah,
Janet Fish
and I’m sure that’s just the tip of the iceberg as faras things that you’ve learned and discovered by doing to accept puzzles, especially considering how often you do them right? So, um,
Erica Ross-Krieger
can you
Janet Fish
give me or can you share with me. Ah, some I don’t want to say a testimonial, but I want to hear, um, one of your success stories I want to hear about a client that came to you what they were struggling with and how you got them. Help them and whatever that looks like.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Okay, um, one of the one of the I only do two offerings by the way on and one of them that I do is a 12 day intensive. And, um, in the 12 day intensive, when people finish that and I get comments back like, Oh, my gosh, the following month, they’ll say, you know, I did more business easier, Um, with more joy in my heart. Then I did all of last year in the following month. That, to me is like, Oh, my goodness, right? Like, really? Or, you know, somebody that works with me for six months or a year, that might say, Look, I was really stuck in it on. I measured a lot Bye. The financial aspect, because that’s why they’re usually coming to me. I’m stuck below six figures or some of them. You know, I’m stuck right over it, but I can’t go beyond that. So and I’ve tried all this other stuff. So when somebody says to me, Hey, money just came in a lot faster, a lot easier. Ah, after I worked with you, That’s really how I know.
Janet Fish
Yeah, well, and that’s that’s a significant and very tangible is e f t something you can do remotely. Or is this something that has to be done physically,
Erica Ross-Krieger
General, I do with people all over the world, and we usually start the 1st 1 on Skype so they can see me do it. But I’m also put together a teeny video for people to see how you do it. And then the rest of it we can do on the phone. So you’re tapping where you are, and I’m tapping where I am, and I’m saying certain things and you’re repeating after me into So you’re tapping while I’m saying things. And then you say the same thing and they are things like I’m feeling so stressed about no hit in six figures this month, and then I want to release this block. So you’re saying things as you’re tapping,
Janet Fish
So I also know that you like it just mentioned, Um, the 12 day quantum wealth intensive talk a little bit more. I know you’re getting ready to launch another one of the them I’ve got actually got your documents in front of me. So I’m kind of looking at them, um, talk a little bit about what that looks like to someone.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Oh, sure. So this one is actually a virtual for the most part. But there are over the course of 12 days, there are two group calls, and on them, we do tapping up pertaining to quantum wealth, which, which is so centered wealth will call it. I think it’s a bit that way. Um and so there are two group calls. There’s an individual session with me and then on Facebook in a private group just for the people that are working their living out loud around their finances. So they’ve got to know that this 12 day is a group program. They do get a one on one with me in it, but it is a group, so they’ve got to be willing to kind of say, These are the blocks I’m hitting right now kind of out loud in front of others and the way they do it in this group, Um, they don’t want to spill the beans too much, but there’s an exercise that they do where every single day there’s a post with an increasing amount of money. And you, if you will pretend or future pace that that amount of money just came into your business account and whatever that amount is because some days it’s 5000 and some days it’s 100,000. I asked you a Siri’s of questions about how did it come in and you get to make it up, how you’re gonna allocate it, what you’re grateful for about it, um, and then also it, um, to make it be practical in real life. What step could you take today to help that manifest? So over the course of those 12 days, I’m purposely again putting you up against the edges and the blocks that air in the way of you knowing what’s possible, See, because before more wealth can come in, our belief has to exceed where we currently are. Our belief in what’s possible, our knowing, all right, we know what our belief and and that is what happens during those 12 days is somebody’s belief in what’s possible, Uh, grows exponentially.
Janet Fish
No. All right. So I will put ah, a link and some more information to the 12 day intensive in the show notes. So anybody who wants to learn more about it, we’ll be able to get get access to
Erica Ross-Krieger
that good. And and we’ll put something in there to about anybody that’s listening. Let’s give him a 20% discount.
Janet Fish
All right, so will you. And I’ll talk about that off line, and we’ll make sure that that gets, well, do some kind of a code or whatever. We need to get to do that. So that’s perfect. All right. Thank you for that. I appreciate that. Do you have a favorite quote? And if you do, why?
Erica Ross-Krieger
Oh, I have to. And I’ll tell you first, I have a personal one and a bigger one, and I’ll tell you what I mean by that, my personal one was buying my Angelou. Um, who said when people show you who they are, believe them. I think his entrepreneurs we need to know that
Janet Fish
I like that just
Erica Ross-Krieger
yeah, when people show you who they are, believe them because by and large, you know, And if later on you find out Oh, shoot, I shouldn’t have trusted or I should have trusted you knew early on with that particular individuals. So I love that one, and then the bigger one for me that guides me that I have on my desk that I love and I’m looking at it right now is this one. It’s to come to life more fully. So is to serve life more wisely and more noble. Lee sagely stillness within sovereign service without. And that quote is by a man named, um John Sullivan, who is a professor of philosophy and the creator of what used to be called the Tai Sophia program, which is now Maryland University of Integrated Health. And it’s It was a program I went through based on principles of Chinese medicine and how they apply to everyday life into organizations. And it’s all say it one more time. It’s to come to life more fully, so it’s just serve life more wisely and more nobly, essentially stillness within sovereign service without
Janet Fish
awesome. So I’m gonna got a couple more questions for you. The first is you talked about the quote when people show you who they are believed them. So that gets me to thinking about intuition and listening to the voices. When I say listening to the voice in your head, I’m not talking about the one who says, You know, your hair looks bad today. I’m talking about the thean tuition voices in your head talk a little bit about how that plays a role in with you and with your clients, if that makes sense.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Oh, absolutely. That that still small quiet, which is actually part of the second quote to write sagely stillness within. That’s key for me on DDE learning to trust that, developing that it’s probably one of the keys I should have said to you earlier. When somebody says is an entrepreneur, what should they sharpen? You know, sharpen that tool. Intuition plays a key role, and it’s also one of the reasons why I do my work a lot of it by phone without the video, because I can tune in a lot more clearly. And in my advanced course, I actually use an intuitive gift to tune into where somebody’s blocked. So it’s it’s just an important piece of the puzzle, right?
Janet Fish
Yeah, I agree. I mean, I do almost, I say over 90% of my coaching I do over the phone. Um, and if I do it over Skype or something like that, typically, I would prefer not to have the video, because it’s that whole what we call third level listening, listening for what they’re not saying.
Erica Ross-Krieger
All right,
Janet Fish
I’m listening very, very deeply to not just the words but to the meanings behind it. So, um, I think that’s I couldn’t agree with you more. I think it’s super powerful.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Yeah. You know, I think that’s another good reason for taking quiet time, um, outdoors or wherever it is for you to go into that. I know the boys
Janet Fish
because it because just just doing that, um, it just it is noticing. It’s being aware. Um, and oftentimes, in our crazy busy lives, we don’t just like you say, take the time to stop and smell the roses. And when you do that, that just helps in all areas. And intuition is certainly one of them. Oh, So, Erica, what do you want your legacy to be?
Erica Ross-Krieger
I just want everybody whose life I interact. Well, to feel better. Then they did buckle. We did. So I just wanna have it being that, you know, it said, you know, I felt better as a result of having an interaction with Erica than I did before. That puts aside Yes, I wanna do. Right. I’ve written one. I want to write my second book this year. It puts aside all of that. Yeah, I want to do all that. But my Why is that? My wife is I wanna leave the world better than when I was here. But I want to leave each person better. And that means the waitress. That means the guy who changed my tires. That means, um, a 10 year old nephew. That means your listeners. That means you. Um that means my husband. But it also means my only your action with myself. Yeah. How do I leave myself better than I was this heart.
Janet Fish
Yes. And I mean, I know you. I’ve known you for quite a while. I know that you haven’t picked up acted many, many people’s lives, but, um, I know you will continue to do that. And I love that you ended with, you know, you want to. You want you are You want impact of you to be the best, Erica, you can be every single day. I think that’s awesome. Yep. All right, Erica. So offers for them the, um, transformational boo. So that’s kind of a challenge. Um, every day you’ve bathed or getting a shower, that’s your transformational booth to really future pace where you want to be. Yep. And then we’ll put a link to the 12 day quantum wealth intensive programs for people and learn a little bit more about that. Anything else that, um, you want to leave our listeners with this afternoon?
Erica Ross-Krieger
Um, I think that I mean something else for them. You mean that they might want or just another tip. It
Janet Fish
doesn’t matter. Whatever.
Erica Ross-Krieger
Um, I’m not saying everybody should go out and get a jigsaw puzzle tomorrow afternoon. But the lessons that I learned from it about keeping your eye on where you’re headed and knowing that that the pieces were in the box my view is What do you want for your entrepreneurial business? You contain all pieces already. Just know that.
Janet Fish
What a great metaphor. I haven’t done a puzzling forever, so I might
Erica Ross-Krieger
have to take that challenge your next challenge go for
Janet Fish
All right. Well, you know, before we’re friends on Facebook, so you know that you’ll be able to say, Hey, Janet, have you done that yet? So, um, you could be my accountability partner on that. I
Erica Ross-Krieger
got it.
Janet Fish
All right, Well, thank you, Eric. I really appreciate your time this afternoon. You have a great rest a day
Erica Ross-Krieger
you, Janet.
Janet Fish
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